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New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15%

by rapcetera, Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 10:26:48 AM EST

Looks like that Fox Poll might not have been an out-lier but rather the beginning of a trend that shows Hillary's lead in NH falling into single digits. Both Fox and Rasmussen have her lead at 7%tage points.

The link: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c ontent/politics/election_2008__1/2008_pr esidential_election/new_hampshire/electi on_2008_new_hampshire_democratic_primary

The Numbers:

Hillary Clinton 33%

Barack Obama 26%

John Edwards 15%

Bill Richardson 9%

Dennis Kucinich 4%

Joe Biden 4%

Chris Dodd 1%

Mike Gravel 0%

Looking further into the details, it seems as if Hillary is loosing support amongst men, where Obama now leads and she has also lost support amongst women although it's still a substantial margin (14%)

Other quotes from the report as as follows:

"Clinton leads Obama by fourteen among women but trails by three among men. Last month, she led by seventeen among women and was tied among men."

"Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Clinton's supporters are "certain" they will vote for her. Sixty-three percent (63%) of Obama's supporters are that certain along with 49% of those who plan to vote for Edwards."

"Thirty-six percent (36%) of the Likely Democratic Primary Voters name the War in Iraq as the most important voting issue. Twenty-four percent (24%) say it's the economy while 19% named health care."

"Seventy-three percent (73%) of New Hampshire's Likely Democratic Primary Voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton. Eighty-percent (80%) of women have a favorable opinion of her, a view shared by just 66% of men. Forty-six percent (46%) of women have a Very Favorable opinion of Clinton while only 9% have a Very Unfavorable view. Among men, just 29% have a Very Favorable opinion while 15% have a Very Unfavorable view"

"Overall, 81% offer a positive assessment of both Obama and Edwards. They also earn better reviews from women, but the gap is not as big as it is for Clinton."

Okay y'all, spin away...........

Tags: Rasmussen, Obama, Cinton, Edwards, Poll, Polls (all tags)

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I don't want to sound cynical but does anyone (none / 0)

think that the hostage situation yesterday will affect the polls? I think it might give Hillary a bump. Weird I know, but not far-fetched.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 10:31:36 AM EST

Re: I don't want to sound cynical but does anyone (2.00 / 2)

This may give Hillary a temporary bump just like the one Edwards received during his wife illness announcement.

I wish no bump occurs for her because she did not do anything...If she was in the office at the time , it would be a different story.

by Prodigy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:02:21 AM EST
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True. (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, you're probably right about that.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:05:08 AM EST
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god ....;hate filled and looney (none / 0)

you people just keep showing your true stripes dont ya?...

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:31:08 AM EST
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Re: god ....;hate filled and looney (none / 0)

I was at the white house the day the small plane was flown in to south lawn. I have to say, the reaction from President Clinton was very impressive. Incredible compassion for the individual involved, a wealth of detail about mental illness, small planes, almost every angle.

It really was a moment that reminds me at least of what a natural he was.

But there is something about the clintons that seems to attract nut jobs and extremists. Maybe this is how Holden came on board. :)

Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra

by Orlando on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:00:51 PM EST
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Re: god ....;hate filled and looney (none / 0)

LOL!!

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:46:24 PM EST
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Re: I don't want to sound cynical but does anyone (2.00 / 1)

I don't think it will carry much weight over the next week because it only lasted... probably around five hours? Guessing. And nobody got hurt. The guy had a belt of road flares, so there was a big limit on the damage he could have done. I'm not saying it wasn't scary, just that if things went bad, they couldn't have gotten very bad.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:40:04 AM EST
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Re: I don't want to sound cynical but does anyone (2.00 / 1)

Clinton had lost control of the agenda and was in free fall.

This event could change that but I think the events in Iowa over the weekend will probably get all campaigns back on track.

All candidates benefit from a Clinton free fall, so I think we will see vigorous effort by all (except hrc) to put this event behind us.

by aiko on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:15:29 PM EST
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Re: I don't want to sound cynical but does anyone (none / 0)

No, but I also don't think it will hurt her either. I don't think it has an effect. It didn't receive the media saturation that I would have expected it too, which, IMHO will mean it has little effect on polls... if it does... 1% either way, two at the most.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:51:33 PM EST
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Obama and Huckabee on the rize (2.00 / 1)

Today's national rasmussen trackinng poll is showing Obama within single digit of Hillary...That's the third day in a roll the tracking poll has shown Obama closing in so the Hillarytes wont be able to say this is just a blimp.

When Obama was polling under 20% for about 3-4 days straight , the Hillarytes were all sipping on champagne and dancing naked in the streets.

On the GOP side , i now believe Huckabee will win their nomination...He's moved well into the second seat now and only trail Guiliani by 9% nationally.

Guilaini is done...Mark my word...He needs a 20% lead on those national polls to survive loses in the early states.

Hillary is also facing the same kind of pressure...She needs to keep up a huge lead nationally to oppress defeats in Iowa and NH.

by Prodigy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:10:54 AM EST

Club for Growth (none / 0)

and other moneyed interests are going to hit Huckabee hard in the next month or two. We'll see what they can manage.

I agree with you that Rudy is done. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops out of the race before January 3. There are likely to be many more damaging revelations in this story.

John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."

by desmoinesdem on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:22:31 AM EST
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Re: Club for Growth (2.00 / 1)

Why would he drop out? I just don't think that would happen. He's in until New Hampshire.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:53:10 PM EST
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Re: Club for Growth (none / 0)

Rudy is toast. It was only a matter of time.

by iamready on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:09:00 PM EST
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Re: Obama and Huckabee on the rize (none / 0)

I'm not sure about Huckabee winning the overall nomination, but I do believe he has the Christian conservative vote in Iowa locked up. Those folks were looking for a candidate to coalesce around. They've found there man. I think Huckabee would be the most dangerous nominee for our nominee to face. He is very witty and frames right wing themes in a populist and empathetic manner. He's good. I believe he will win Iowa going away.

Oh Yeah, I also think things are looking good for Obama. I'll reserve my thots on Barack's chances. I believe things will bear themselves out positively on January 3rd and 8th.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:22:54 AM EST
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Re: Obama and Huckabee on the rize (none / 0)

What continues to blow my mind is that it took THIS LONG for Huckabee to catch on... how did he not rack up the Theocons much much earlier?

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:54:15 PM EST
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Re: Obama and Huckabee on the rize (2.00 / 1)

It took Gilmore, Thompson, and Brownback to drop out before Huckabee caught fire. They had to unite under a candidate before he started to catch fire. That's why it took so long.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:13:27 PM EST
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Re: Obama and Huckabee on the rize (none / 0)

You again need to remember. Folks start paying attention AFTER Labor Day. Those polls all through the spring, summer were soft numbers, and I am being kind, here.

by iamready on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:35:49 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

I think this race is getting close and I think the analysts are right in that if Obama wins IA, he will go on to win NH. Not good days to be for Clinton, is it? However, I still think that she can make it, but it won't be a cakewalk.

by American1989 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:20:46 AM EST

Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

I agree. Hillary isn't a natural though, She's being propelled by the machine, but sometimes that machine needs fuel, and therein lies her problem. If this was Bill from 1991/92 running, this show might be over already.

Obama on the other hand is a crafty, shrewd, and smart politician. He stayed back on purpose and did not start making his move until after Labor day, he did the same thing when he won his senate race in Chicago. He has a reputation for finishing very strongly. I don't even think he needs Oprah anymore but hey, I guess Oprah can't hurt.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:26:28 AM EST
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Oboma lost to A nobody IN 2000 (none / 0)

by marketingman on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:54:42 PM EST
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Re: Oboma lost to A nobody IN 2000 (none / 0)

Yeah, keep believing that. Before he lost to a nobody, he beat 2 somebody's. He beat one - someone who had the democratic machine behind him and spent 30 million dollars of his own money on the race - in the Democratic nomination race (And don't mention the controversies because he was already pulling ahead) and pulled in a majority (over 50%) of the votes in a 7 person nomination contest. He then went on to the general and was beating Jack Ryan in the polls before Ryan's campaign collapsed due to sexual controversies involving Ryan's wife, And then the speech happened, so it did not matter who the republicans would have run against Obama at that point, Obama would have killed 'em anyways.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:54:53 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

November 29, 2007 CNN Florida poll: Clinton 51%, Obama 21%, Edwards 11%

November 29, 2007 Rasmussen Iowa poll: Clinton 27%, Obama 25%, Edwards 24%, Richardson 10%

November 28, 2007 Suffolk/WHDH New Hampshire poll: Clinton 34%, Obama 22%, Edwards 15%, Richardson 9%

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:26:18 AM EST

Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

I love the spin. Love it! lol...

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:26:56 AM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

spin?

real numbers confuse you?

youve been watching too much hardball pal..

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:59:23 AM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

It's funny because your response to a poll you don't like is by posting other polls you do like.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:11:20 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

The person you are responding to is Icebergslim. She gave herself away with a posting tick particular only to her. She did.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:19:55 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

and what was this tick? how F'ing myopic can you be? I am not Icebergslim. I'm probably more passionate about Obama than she is. Get a grip will ya?

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:25:27 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Hey, I don't mind. I think it's funny. On the off chance that you really are two different people, then you have let her use your sign on. You have!
= )

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:43:22 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

You're wrong. Icebergslim usually posts on D'Kos and Openleft. When Iceberg posts here, she posts under the name iamready. Raptecera has been posting long before Iceberg was banned from MyDD and since iamready hasn't been banned, why should she use a third name at the same time? You're wrong. Simple as that.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:31:10 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Nope, I'm right. I am. Either that or people are using each others screen names. That is always a possibility. It is. = )

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:42:01 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

No proof, but you're right.

I love your logic. Thanks for acting like a 2nd grader. Wow.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:46:40 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Mollie along with lonnette etc are a bit crazy so my advice is to simply ignore them or else they will hijack the thread as she's now trying to do.

by bruh21 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:38:30 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Agreed... It's like dealing with a girlfriend with crazy eyes... eventually its ALL going to go bad.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:57:43 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Spare me bruh! You would be alright if you didn't go out on tangents and just stick to the issue at hand.

by lonnette33 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 09:00:43 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

i am sticking to the issue at hand which is namely the pathological need of several of you to post hijack diaries and then feign victimhood for being called on it.

by bruh21 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:04:00 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

You are such a drama king.

by lonnette33 on Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 12:50:14 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

and you are a victim

by bruh21 on Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 03:14:34 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Give it a rest bruh.

by lonnette33 on Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 03:30:08 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Wrong Jeremiah. She posts under aiko, Dee, shirley temple, Edna and a host of others.

by lonnette33 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 08:58:55 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

look. heres your proof:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/1/ 93710/9616

its a diary from DKos today. Search for my name and also for iceberg's and you'll see that were both posting as different people. why would iceberg post as two people in the same diary?

now let it go, this is the 2nd time you've accused me of being icebergslim.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:43:07 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

LOL, that is not proof. It's not. I don't know why some one would post as two different people in one thread or why you would know that even happened. I don't.
Like I said, I think it's funny. I do.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:46:14 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

okay, well now you're acting childish. And I know the tick you're referring to. She likes to reinforce her points with "It is" or "for real" and so on....

still though, you need to grow up.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:52:45 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

And where is your proof Mollie?

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:58:20 PM EST
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Odd.... (none / 0)

Let it go is Slim's favorite expression. It is.

by bookgrl on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:05:44 PM EST
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Re: Odd.... (none / 0)

really? I had no idea. I didn't.

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:09:59 PM EST
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Re: Odd.... (2.00 / 1)

"Let it go" is a very common expression. You might just as well accuse her of being slim for saying, "Go for it" or "check it out" or "have a seat."

This whole discussion is silly.

by Mystylplx on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:11:45 PM EST
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Re: Odd.... (none / 0)

Isn't it?

I'm male by the way. ;-)

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:14:11 PM EST
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Re: Odd.... (2.00 / 0)

I swear we need a gender neutral pronoun, at least for use on the internet.

by Mystylplx on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:28:16 PM EST
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The poster, or the diarist, while not a pronoun (none / 0)

still stays gender neutral

by merbex on Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 09:02:58 AM EST
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Re: Odd.... (none / 0)

And I suppose that anyone who used LOL in a post is AREYOUREADY? Or maybe you and mollie are the same people because you used the word "It"... CONSPIRACY!!!

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:00:32 PM EST
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Re: Odd.... (none / 0)

LOL!!!

I guess I must be "AREYOUREADY" now huh ;-)

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:57:10 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

"why would iceberg post as two people in the same diary?"

You don't know Slim. She's a piece of work!

by lonnette33 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 09:02:06 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Definitely not.

by Shaun Appleby on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:04:32 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

Florida delegates won't be seated so what's the point in posting these meaningless polls? A waste of time.

Michigan also got stripped off their delegates this morning.

by rosebowl on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:20:30 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

It's getting tight. I love it. I think this is exciting. I wanted a tight race. Makes it more interesting. HRC never wanted a cake walk.

by lonnette33 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:40:00 AM EST

LOL! (2.00 / 2)

"HRC never wanted a cake walk."

This is perhaps the most hillarious comment I've ever read on MyDD! A classic!

by mattmfm on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:46:24 AM EST
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Re: LOL! (2.00 / 1)

Of course who wouldn't want a cakewalk? The lie posed by the anti-Hillaries though is that she was always expecting a cakewalk, and assumed herself to be inevitable. I think she alway knew this would tighten up.

Three debates and three major potential endorsement in Gore, Kerry and Ted Kennedy hanging in the wind. This is going to be a great finish.

by Christopher Lib on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 11:57:53 AM EST
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gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

its all about delegates people...

why bother trying to explain...youll see...

you folks should stop listening to the pundits thouugh...

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:03:33 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

Delegates are very influenced by momentum. AKA whoever wins 2 of the first 3 will probably have the most momentum, and therefore, carry the most delegates.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:10:44 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

good point

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:20:57 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

thats bs media CW...

LOOK AGAIN AT 2000.

which is the only model for this race...

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:41:11 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

You're saying a two-person race is comparable to an eight-person race? How is it a model for this? You need to ellaborate because your point did not come across at all.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:43:14 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

Um look at 2004 which is the very DEFINITION of momentum carrying one into the nomination. Gore was the frontrunner for the Dems from start to finish... he only won by 4 to a guy from the NE... and it didn't hurt him at all in taking the nomination... Clinton in 1992 rode momentum from the surprise second place NH win to the nom... Its the MOMENTUM that propels one.. if the candidate was expected to finish better (a la Dean in 2004) then finishing worse can severely hurt them... it doesn't mean they will lose, but it can hurt them. If they finish better than expected (a la Kerry in 2004) then it can propel them to the nom, but its NOT a guarentee. If most polls show a single digit lead between Clinton and the second place guy right before Iowa and the Second Place guy wins Iowa, then there is a strong chance the bounce received will propel them to a win. Its not a guarentee, though. Just as Hillary winning Iowa or NH isn't a guarentee she'll win.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:08:43 PM EST
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Delegate count (2.00 / 1)

You are correct that it is all about the delegates, the interesting thing is Iowa and New Hampshire have very few delegates. What Iowa and New Hampshire do provide is momentum. If Obama wins Iowa he will get a great deal of positive press. If he wins New Hampshire or loses by just a point or two he will get positive press.

What will be interesting will be whether Hillary winning an uncontested Michigan Primary will be enough to stop the momentum. It will also be interesting to see what kind of firewall Nevada offers.

I find it likely that if Obama wins Iowa and either wins New Hampshire or gets a very close second he wins the nomination. If Obama wins Iowa and has a significant loss to Hillary in New Hampshire, he will lose.

While it is true that the delegate count is the only thing that matters, most of the delegates will be decided on February 5th. Who wins on February 5th will be decided by who wins the early states.

by Obama08 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:15:06 PM EST
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Re: Delegate count (none / 0)

I am hoping that UNDECIDED neats Clinton in Michigan,

by aiko on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:16:20 PM EST
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I find (none / 0)

that youre involved in wishful thinking...and dont know what the heck your talking about...

as long as Hill stays strong in the mass of primaries...she wins...

but eve people whove never worked, let alone won, in this world are now... "experts"

youll see...

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:45:23 PM EST
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Re: I find (2.00 / 3)

Said the ignorant commenter who has NO verifiable proof he has ever worked in politics, whose writing skills pretty much prove he has no real experience working in any sort of communication type fields and whose claim to be an expert is disproven by the ignorant BS he writes on MyDD every day. Thanks Holden... you're super... you just have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:12:23 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

Is that true about Gore? I had no idea. That's good to know.

by bookgrl on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:33:55 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

same exact deal...contempt from his opponents ....
bradley joined mattthews and actually called Al a liar in the nh debate...

which DID woud nd hurtt Gore. How could it not?

Just like now, they tossed tons OF MUD AND LIES about Al...

Predictioss that he would fall in NH and then be vulnerable were CONSTANT IN THE PRESS....

Hell, they didnt have Oprah - but they brought out MICHEL JORDAN!!

BUT

Gore was strong in all the states where bradley hadnt done much and the media were ignoring...

just like this time...

Like Bradleys ream, Hillarys opponents think that if they win on cable and with he pundit crowd - theyll win..........eh...

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:54:59 PM EST
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Re: gore won nh by 4!! (none / 0)

Gore had NO competition. Bradley was never a serious contender and being from the NE, it probably helped him in NH. He never got the coverage Gore did and was underfunded. Clinton faces two candidates who are almost as well known and as strong as her. One can match her financially and the other is getting an infusion to take her on. You are comparing apples and oranges.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:15:03 PM EST
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Re: LOL! (2.00 / 2)

Well she sold her candidacy as inevitable to big fundraisers, etc who have given tons to her GE campaign... if that's not running as inevitable then I don't know what is. That was her strategy, I'm not sure why you are denying it.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:02:37 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

ROFLMAO

by sndeak on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:03:20 PM EST
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Excellent poll (2.00 / 2)

Looking good for both Obama and Edwards. I said earlier - Hillary's margin in New Hampshire is going to grow narrower as the electorate pays attention. Edwards and Obama have a real shot at winning the state.

by rosebowl on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:25:17 PM EST

Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

This matches up with a recent FOX New Hampshire poll that had her lead down to single digits as well.

So much for her firewall state. If Obama wins Iowa, she's done for.

by Namtrix on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:44:11 PM EST

FOX NH poll: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3142 44,00.html

by rosebowl on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:52:59 PM EST
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wouldnt it be more interesting (none / 0)

if you actually KNEW what you were talking about?

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman

by holden caulfield on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 12:57:35 PM EST
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Re: wouldnt it be more interesting (2.00 / 1)

Seeing as you aren't willing to argue points, I would side with him on this one. Two polls in a row showing Hillary's lead in New Hampshire down to seven points.

by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:00:48 PM EST
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Re: wouldnt it be more interesting (none / 0)

Hillarytes cant defend 2 polls back to back showing her lead in single digit in NH , a state that was suppose to be her firewall.

There's no way Obama loses NH after a win in Iowa...From what i'm hearing , the bounce is worth about 12%...If the race stays in the single digits , Obama will win NH.

by Prodigy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:40:44 PM EST
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Re: wouldnt it be more interesting (2.00 / 1)

expect more of this. whether she wins or not, i hope several of the posters here learn a lesson about how 2008 isn't going to be any different than any other cycle in voter behavior. their whole argument depended on clinton as inevitable. thats thoroughly got a fork in it and is done.

by bruh21 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:41:53 PM EST
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Re: wouldnt it be more interesting (none / 0)

I Concur!

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 01:47:42 PM EST
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What we are begining to see is (2.00 / 3)

how the focus on Iowa starts to change races in other states.

The media's primary focus is on the Iowa numbers. As that starts to drive coverage, you begin to see polling that has been frozen for months in other places start to move. Note the shift - the National Numbers are becoming less and less important in the horse-race coverage, in part because news organizations are paying for Iowa polls, and will therefore inevitably focus their stories on their polls.

In general the following pattern will take place:
A change in Iowa is reflected in NH in about 10 days
A change in National Polling is reflected about 7 - 10 days after New Hampshire

My guess is we will see the National Polling start to close as well.

About 3 weeks ago I wondered of the debate gaffe of Clinton's was a defining moment in the campaign.

We have an eon between now and Iowa, but I think there is significant evidence that it was.

by fladem on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 02:51:43 PM EST
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Re: What we are begining to see is (none / 0)

Yeah but I question your statement that Iowa is reflected 10 days later in NH... By that, then if someone other than Hillary wins Iowa, it won't affect NH, which I can't see happening. Unless you just mean polls.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:19:47 PM EST
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This is before Iowa (none / 0)

The effect after Iowa in New Hampshire takes less than 72 hours.

by fladem on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:51:25 PM EST
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Re: wouldnt it be more interesting (none / 0)

Same question right back at you?

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:17:08 PM EST
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Re: New Rasmussen NH Poll: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

All Clinton had is the inevitable them which is based on telling voters that a vote for Clinton is a wasted vote , so you better vote for the inevitable or else.

This was really her biggest case to win the nomination.

She's not a good campaigner..In fact , i think she's an horrible campaigner and we are startig to see how bad she is because she can no longer claim she's the defacto nominee.

Now , they are praying this little hostage stuff gives her a bounce...This stuff was on all national newspaper and newscast , so my guess is she may indeed get a bounce...I pray she doesnt receive shit , but my guess is she will....She doesnt deserve free points for this event because she did not do shit.

by Prodigy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 03:50:45 PM EST

inevitability is not vision (2.00 / 2)

once people know my junior senator they will go with him.

Finish Hard, Obama-Edwards!

by pmb on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:23:07 PM EST

Other Candidates (none / 0)

I'll be interested to see what happens to the supporters of Biden, Dodd, and Kucinich when election day nears. Will they go to their favorite top-tier candidate or will they stick it out and pray for a miracle?

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a century.

by jkfp2004 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 04:52:55 PM EST

C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (none / 0)

The race is tightening, the wolves are at the door- but we are still in a great position- a lead is still a lead- and I think we will end up being fine.

by reasonwarrior on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:25:49 PM EST

Re: C: 33%, O: 26%, E: 15% (2.00 / 1)

The most reasonable comment made by a Clinton supporter all day. Thank You!

by rapcetera on Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 06:01:32 PM EST
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